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Thinking of moving

March 15th, 2012 at 08:21 pm

I am equally happy living in both urban and suburban environments, hubby is mostly urban except without the patois and bling. I compared a desirable city north of us to where we live now:
North City
+ better public school test results
+ can be in Vancouver within 90 minutes
+ cost of living a little lower: housing and utilities are less
+ closer to my friends
+ better bookstores
+ lower violent crime rates
+ marginally lower property tax rate
+ higher comfort index
+ less-expensive houses
+ culture
+ sunnier

- mass transit barely used
- walkscores are lower, unless I want to be within ten blocks of the interstate (cancer risk). Definitely getting a Leaf, Volt or Prius if we move up.
- higher property crime rates
- cul-de-sacs galore: accident potential
- groceries costs are higher
- smaller library system
- snows more
- more politically diverse: most every local election goes the way we want it to in our current city
- rains more

I don't want so much land as I want a house that's within walking/bicycling distance to some good schools and I don't have to take the car freaking everywhere. We could move to a condo or townhouse in our current city but the schools would still suck. It would help also to have little noise from barking dogs, so maybe no suburban stuff.

Maybe I'll investigate the school district and see how its curriculum is different from "if we just corporatize everything or let the Gates and Broad Foundations run our schools everything will be great!!" Seattle.

10 Responses to “Thinking of moving”

  1. LuckyRobin Says:
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    If it's my city you're talking about, and I think it is, I can tell you that by and large the school district is very good, but that there is one middle school that looks very shiny that you do not want to be in the district of, and unfortunately that is where some of the best housing is located. It just happens to encompass some low income apartments on the edge of the district with a huge, 2 generation drug problem as well. You also wouldn't want to buy too near the university (street parking is impossible and there are few driveways) or the community college (traffic nightmare), or above the train tracks because the coal trains run constantly and vibrate those houses like crazy.

    I forget how old your boy is, but for elementary school I'd recommend Parkview, Sunnyland, Geneva, Silver Beach, Northern Heights or Carl Cozier (though most of the elementary schools are pretty good). For middle schools Whatcom, Kulshan, or Fairhaven in that order. Shiny middle school is not on my list. For high schools "insert name of city" High or Squalicum High. I believe "insert name of city" High has the highest reading scores in the state. The other high school is horribly outdated and run down.

  2. PauletteGoddard Says:
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    My boy'll be in middle school next year. What you shared about schools is good information. So many two-bedrooms for sale, despite the household population being larger there than here. Are there sidewalks throughout the city or only in the neighborhoods adjacent to the city center? Do millionaires put tens of thousands of dollars into school board elections? What math curriculum do the middle school students have?

  3. LuckyRobin Says:
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    My son's current math book is called Connected Mathematics 2: Covering and Surrounding. He's in 6th grade. We don't have very many millionaires here, though Ryan Stiles has a house in the Fairhaven area. There are a few, but they don't really seem involved in the schools. School board is very...grass rootsy, I guess I'd call it. Maintenance levys pass. The tech levy just passed with no problems.

    There are a ton of small two bedrooms/1 bath for sale for reasonable money in some very good neighborhoods that have been for sale for a while. Not because they aren't nice houses, but because they are smaller square footage and only have the one bath. There are a lot of bigger families that just can't fit into smaller quarters. 3 to 4 children per family seem to be the norm here from what I've seen of my kids' classmates, so the bigger houses get snatched up while the smaller ones sit.

    There are a lot of sidewalks in this city outside the city center. Most side streets have them on one side of the road and the bigger cross streets have them on both. There are a few without sidewalks, but they tend to be more on the outskirts of town or up on some of the steeper hills' side streets that don't get the traffic. There are less the further north you go in the city as that was all annexed land that was originally rural.

  4. PauletteGoddard Says:
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    We'd want a three-bedroom house, or two bedrooms plus office/den. I am wondering about renting, but we have three cats. I don't want to buy until I know how the federal election goes. Columbia neighbourhood looks decent. I looked at the county records online to find very few bankruptcies or foreclosures. Then again, the city population is 12 - 15% of Seattle's. Growth rate is twice Seattle's though.

  5. LuckyRobin Says:
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    Columbia is an excellent neighborhood. My DD's best friend lives there and we are there often. I also went to club meetings in that neighborhood as a child so I'm quite familiar with it. There is a gorgeous park there that is quite large. It has a lot of Craftsmen houses and lots of stop signs and sidewalks. There are also two schools in the area, a private one (St. Paul's Academy, I believe, not Catholic, but I forget what branch) and Columbia elementary, so the ratio of families with kids is pretty high. It's one of the neighborhoods high on our list. I'd avoid anything on Eldridge, though. The houses might be gorgeous and historical and have great views of the bay, but because of the increase of the coal trains their value has fallen well below what the selling prices are (because the owners still think they are worth what they used to be worth before the trains). The houses shake when those things go by. It's worse than being by the freeway.

  6. PauletteGoddard Says:
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    Thanks for the tip about the Eldridge houses. Is it quiet where you are? Do you hear dogs barking in excess of twenty minutes every night? Are there lots of activities for tweens to do? Could my kid go fishing, do martial arts, play chess, go curling or to an ice rink?
    Sorry if any of this sounds ignorant: I've been to Bellingham only a few times, not long enough to know if it's a small yet self-sustaining city--I won't have to go to Bellis Fair for everything, will I? I barely go to the mall anymore: only to check out sales in JC Penney furnishings and the odd card offering at Papyrus.

    I checked up on Ryan Stiles: he and his wife Patricia have a few properties in the county. He has a house on a lake, some in Bow and one in Glacier.

  7. LuckyRobin Says:
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    There is a sports complex with indoor soccer fields that also has a skating rink. There is Arne Hanna Aquatic center, which has an Olympic size pool, a diving pool, and a wading pool for the little ones. The library has activities every Monday night for kids 12 to 18. They might have a movie night one week or a video game night the next. There's a roller skating rink out in Lynden that operates on Saturdays for everyone. Fishing is allowed in the lakes and in some of the streams during fishing season. There are several different martial arts offered. There's a couple of dance studios that teach hip hop. I know my son's school has a chess club. In the summer the library system offers the Brown Bag Lunch on the Library Lawn, where you come bring your lunch on Fridays and they have some form of entertainment. The city does outdoor movies. There are a huge amount of parks. Lake Whatcom, Lake Padden, and Lake Samish all have beach access, paddle boat rentals, swimming areas and picnic areas with public toilets. Parks and Rec has numerous low cost activities geared at tweens and teens. There's a YMCA with lots of kid programs.

    Well, I almost never go to the mall except to shop for clothes, and even then I prefer to go other places as much as possible. There's other smaller shopping areas. Down town has used book stores, a drug store, dozens of small, quirky restrauants, upscale clothing stores, a toy shop, a hobby shop. There are grocery stores spread all over the city. It really depends on what you are looking for but I tend to go almost a year at a time without setting foot in the mall, unless I am getting my hair cut, getting new glasses, or seeing movie. And even those can be done elsewhere in town.

  8. PauletteGoddard Says:
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    I love the used bookstores: Henderson's, Michael's, Village Books are magnificent and worth the drive up. I'd love the easy access to farms, White Rock. Scooting along Chuckanut Drive. The spouse would love the hobby shop.

  9. PauletteGoddard Says:
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    Thanks for your substantial and informative answers!

  10. LuckyRobin Says:
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    No problem. I adore my home town, so it's easy to talk about.

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